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	These are used to block conversion of other androgens to DHT (which causes hair loss (hair) and body hair growth). They aren't general use anti-androgens.		These are used to block conversion of other androgens to DHT (which causes hair loss (hair) and body hair growth). They aren't general use anti-androgens.
	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
	\|+		!Brand Name(s)
	!~~Name~~		!Substance
	!~~Effectiveness~~		!Cost
			!Cost with Healthcare Coverage
			!Dosage
			!Safety
			!Form
			!Type
			!Notes
	\|-		\|-
	\|		\|[https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/packages/26485 Dastidem], [https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/packages/25557 Rafuster], [https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/packages/25893 Duaride], [https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/packages/25894 Dustezor]
	~~======~~ Dutasteride ~~======~~		\|Dutasteride
	\|High		\|7.90€/30 caps
			\|~6€/30 caps
			\|0.5mg/day (?/TBD)
			\|A-
			\|Capsule
			\| -
			\|High effectiveness.
	\|-		\|-
	\|		\| -
	~~======~~ Finasteride ~~======~~		\|Finasteride
	\|~~None~~ to ~~Medium~~ (~~Please just~~ take ~~duta~~ - will not stop conversion of ~~progesterone~~ to DHT)		\| -
			\| -
			\| -
			\|F
			\| -
			\| -
			\|Effectiveness is none to medium (Just take Dutasteride - will not stop conversion of Progesterone to DHT)
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	====== [https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/drugs/Androcur Androcur] ======		====== [https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/drugs/Androcur Androcur] ======
	\|Cyproterone Acetate (CPA) is also referred to as cypro		\|Cyproterone Acetate (CPA) is also referred to as cypro
	\|23.~~10€~~/50mg * 50 pills		\|21.58€/50mg * 50 pills
	21.1-33.7€/year		19.7-31.5€/year
	\|?		\|?
	\|12.5mg/2 days- 10mg/day		\|12.5mg/2 days- 10mg/day

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	* Suggested to be given after the individual reaches Tanner stage 3.		* Suggested to be given after the individual reaches Tanner stage 3.

	It can have androgenic or other (non-serious, recoverable) effects for some individuals - in particular it can be converted to DHT by the body even in combination with dutasteride or ~~vicalutamide~~.		It can have androgenic or other (non-serious, recoverable) effects for some individuals - in particular it can be converted to DHT by the body even in combination with dutasteride or bicalutamide.
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	=== Medications ===		=== Medications ===
	For cyclacur: '''take only the white pills, the brown pills are Norgestrel which has an androgenic effect and may also cause other side effects'''.		For cyclacur: '''take only the white pills, the brown pills are Norgestrel which have 0.5mg of estradiol but has an androgenic effect and may also cause other side effects'''.

	==== Estrogens ====		==== Estrogens ====
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	\|Pill tablet		\|Pill tablet
	\|Orally or sublingually		\|Orally or sublingually
	\|1.~~75€~~ for 11 pills		\|2.01€ for 11 pills
	~~~116~~-~~290€~~/year		~130.8-328.€/year

	~9.6-23.9€/month		~10.9-27.4€/month

	Prices are indicative, the cost depends on the dosage.		Prices are indicative, the cost depends on the dosage.
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	\|A		\|A
	\|		\|
	* '''Only white pills are used.''' ~~Browns are not~~ estradiol ~~and have no feminizing effect~~.		* '''Only white pills are used.''' Brown pills do have a bit of estradiol but arent taken due to other side effects.
	* You need antiandrogens or GNRH antagonists if you haven't had an orchiectomy.		* You need antiandrogens or GNRH antagonists if you haven't had an orchiectomy.
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	* 35.54€/30 days		* 35.54€/30 days
	* 426.48€/year		* 426.48€/year
	\|?		\|35.54€ -> 8.89€
	\|20mg/day (starting dose)		\|20mg/day (starting dose)
	30-40mg/day		30-40mg/day
	\|A?		\|B-
	\|		\|
	* 1 pump of Tostran ('''0.5g''') delivers 10 mg of T		* 1 pump of Tostran ('''0.5g''') delivers 10 mg of T.
	* 2 pumps of Tostran are 1 pump of Testogel (20.25mg of T)		* 2 pumps of Tostran are 1 pump of Testogel (20.25mg of T)
			* Can cause skin reactions.
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	====== Cyclacur ======		====== [https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/drugs/Cyclacur Cyclacur] ======
	\|Estradiol Valerate (EV)		\|Estradiol Valerate (EV)
	\|Pill tablet		\|Pill tablet
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	\|-		\|-
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	====== Dermestril ======		====== [https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/drugs/Dermestril Dermestril] ======
	\|Estradiol Hemihydrate		\|Estradiol Hemihydrate
	\|Patch		\|Patch
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	\|-		\|-
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	====== Androcur ======		====== [https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/drugs/Androcur Androcur] ======
	\|Cyproterone Acetate (CPA) is also referred to as cypro		\|Cyproterone Acetate (CPA) is also referred to as cypro
	\|23.10€/50mg * 50 pills		\|23.10€/50mg * 50 pills
	23.10-46.2€/year		21.1-33.7€/year
	\|?		\|?
	\|~~6mg~~/2 days- ~~12.5mg~~/day		\|12.5mg/2 days- 10mg/day
	'''Larger doses shouldn't be administered'''		'''Larger doses shouldn't be administered'''
	\|C		\|C
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	\|Progestin (Steroidal antiandrogen)		\|Progestin (Steroidal antiandrogen)
	Stops testosterone production.		Stops testosterone production.
	\|~~Continuous doses greater than 12.5mg~~/day ~~can cause a benign brain tumour~~. Monitoring of prolactin levels is recommended through [[Blood Testing#MTF\|blood testing]].		\|The max recommended dosage is 10mg/day . Monitoring of prolactin levels is recommended through [[Blood Testing#MTF\|blood testing]].
	'''Many doctors give overdoses of 50 mg/day. Cyproterone is a strong anti-androgen and testosterone suppression is possible with lower doses. A change of doctor is recommended.'''		'''Many doctors give overdoses of 50 mg/day. Cyproterone is a strong anti-androgen and testosterone suppression is possible with lower doses. A change of doctor is recommended.'''

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	* Breast cancer.		* Breast cancer.

	Testosterone suppression can be achieved with even lower doses, however a 50 mg pill is difficult to cut into pieces of less than 6 mg even with a pill cutter.		Testosterone suppression can be achieved with even lower doses, however a 50 mg pill is difficult to cut into pieces of less than 12.5 mg even with a pill cutter.
	\|-		\|-
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	====== Bicalut ======		====== [https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/drugs/Bicalut Bicalut] ======
	\|Bicalutamide (aka: bica)		\|Bicalutamide (aka: bica)
	\|29.10 euro/30 pills		\|29.10 euro/30 pills
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	====== Utrogestan ======		====== [https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/drugs/utrogestran Utrogestan] ======
	\|Progesterone (P4) it is also referred to as prog		\|Progesterone (P4) it is also referred to as prog
	\|6.56 euro/15 caps (200mg)		\|6.56 euro/15 caps (200mg)
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	\|		\|
	====== Arvekap ======		====== [https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/drugs/Arvekap Arvekap] ======
	\|Triptorelin		\|Triptorelin
	\| -		\| -
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	\|		\|
	====== Aldactone ======		====== [https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/drugs/aldactone Aldactone] ======
	\|Spironolactone		\|Spironolactone
	\|5.19 euro/20 tabs (100mg)		\|5.19 euro/20 tabs (100mg)
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	\|B-C		\|B-C
	\|Tablet		\|Tablet
	\|		\|Antimineralocorticoid/MCRA
	\|Very inefficient, makes you pee, it's a medication for blood pressure		\|Very inefficient, makes you pee, it's a medication for blood pressure
	\|-		\|-
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	== Transmasc ==		== Transmasc ==
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			!Brand Name(s)
			!Substance
			!Form
			!Method of Administration
			!Cost
			!Cost with Healthcare Coverage
			!Dosage
			!Safety
			!Notes
			\|-
			\|[https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/packages/4929 Norma]
			\|Testosterone Enanthate
			\|Injection/Ampule
			\|Subcutaneous or Intramuscular
			\|17.67€/ampule
			\|?
			\|?
			\|A+
			\| -
			\|-
			\|[https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/packages/15739 Tostran]
			\|Testogel
			\|Gel
			\|Trans-dermally
			\|'''Starting dose'''

			* 35.54€/2 months
			* 213.24€/year

			'''30 mg dose'''

			* 35.54€/40 days
			* ~324.30€/year

			'''40 mg dose'''

			* 35.54€/30 days
			* 426.48€/year
			\|?
			\|20mg/day (starting dose)
			30-40mg/day
			\|A?
			\|
			* 1 pump of Tostran ('''0.5g''') delivers 10 mg of T
			* 2 pumps of Tostran are 1 pump of Testogel (20.25mg of T)
			\|}

	== Legal ==		== Legal ==
	It is legal to buy anything without a diagnosis or a prescription (off the counter - OTC) ~~EXCEPT testosterone~~		It is legal to buy anything without a diagnosis or a prescription (off the counter - OTC), Testosterone can be hit or miss, look for [https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/packages/15739 Tostran] (Testogel) or [https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/packages/4929 TEn] (Testosterone Enanthate/Norma, injections).

			You can also check the '''[https://diyon.top/map Trans-Friendly Pharmacies Map]''' for any pharmacies near you (this goes for both Transfem and Transmasc HRT).

	There is no minimum or maximum legal age for someone to start HRT.		There is no minimum or maximum legal age for someone to start HRT.

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	\|Pill tablet		\|Pill tablet
	\|Orally or sublingually		\|Orally or sublingually
	\|1.~~69€~~ for 11 pills		\|1.75€ for 11 pills
	~~~111~~-~~277€~~/year		~116-290€/year

	~9.3-23.1€/month		~9.6-23.9€/month

	Prices are indicative, the cost depends on the dosage.		Prices are indicative, the cost depends on the dosage.

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	* '''If you have no idea how to apply patches watch this:''' [https://youtu.be/tXGIYWPqdpI?si=O0dlE19pq0ic0PZP Demonstrational Video]		* '''If you have no idea how to apply patches watch this:''' [https://youtu.be/tXGIYWPqdpI?si=O0dlE19pq0ic0PZP Demonstrational Video]
			* You need antiandrogens or GNRH antagonists if you haven't had an orchiectomy.
	* 100mcg patches can be cut into 2 if needed.		* 100mcg patches can be cut into 2 if needed.
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 * You need antiandrogens or GNRH antagonists if you haven't had an orchiectomy.
 * Trisequens, while being available in Greece, is odd to take with 12 pills being 2mg EH, 10 norgestrel, and 6 1mg EH, for a much higher price than [[HRT#Cyclacur|Cyclacur]].
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 |Neofollin (can be ordered from pharmacies near Czechia, not tested in Greece), Delestrogen (Vial, unavailable), Progynon Depot (Ampules, unavailable)

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	====== Sublingual (E Valerate or Hemihydrate) ======		====== Sublingual (E Valerate or Hemihydrate) ======
	\|Cyclacur (EV), Estrofem (EH)		\|Cyclacur (EV), Estrofem (EH, imported), Trisequens (12 pills 2mg EH, 10 pills norgestrel, 6 pills 1mg EH)
	\|>=8-12mg/day		\|>=8-12mg/day
	\|While it is possible, even with a smaller dosage ('''at least 6mg'''), it's not that common. Ideally, use your blood tests to '''minmax''' your doses.		\|While it is possible, even with a smaller dosage ('''at least 6mg'''), it's not that common. Ideally, use your blood tests to '''minmax''' your doses.
	\|-		\|-
	\|		\|
	====== Injectable Valerate (EV) ======		====== Injectable Estradiol Valerate (EV) ======
	\|Delestrogen (Vial), Progynon Depot (Ampules), [[File:What-excuse-me.gif\|thumb\|[[HRT#Other resources\|my honest reaction]]]]		\|Neofollin (can be ordered from pharmacies near Czechia, not tested in Greece), Delestrogen (Vial, unavailable), Progynon Depot (Ampules, unavailable), [[File:What-excuse-me.gif\|thumb\|[[HRT#Other resources\|my honest reaction]]]]
	\|5-7mg/5 days		\|5-7mg/5 days
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	====== Injectable Enanthate (EEn) ======		====== Injectable Estradiol Enanthate (EEn) ======
	\|[[File:What-excuse-me.gif\|thumb\|[[HRT#Other resources\|my honest reaction]]]]		\|[[File:What-excuse-me.gif\|thumb\|[[HRT#Other resources\|my honest reaction]]]]
	\|4-7mg/Week		\|4-7mg/Week
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	====== Injectable Undecylate (EU/EUn) ======		====== Injectable Estradiol Undecylate (EU/EUn) ======
	\|[[File:What-excuse-me.gif\|thumb\|[[HRT#Other resources\|my honest reaction]]]]		\|[[File:What-excuse-me.gif\|thumb\|[[HRT#Other resources\|my honest reaction]]]]
	\|There's not enough information on dosage. The frequency of those may differ according to the oil used (MCT/Castor oil). Indicative Dosages:		\|There's not enough information on dosage. The frequency of those may differ according to the oil used (MCT/Castor oil). Indicative Dosages:
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	====== Estrofem, Estrifam (german brand name) ======		====== Estrofem, Estrifam (german brand name), Trisequens ======
	\|Estradiol Hemihydrate		\|Estradiol Hemihydrate
	\|Pill tablet		\|Pill tablet
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	* There is no reason to use it in Greece since Cyclacur is available in Greek pharmacies.		* There is no reason to use it in Greece since Cyclacur is available in Greek pharmacies.
	* You need antiandrogens or GNRH antagonists if you haven't had an orchiectomy.		* You need antiandrogens or GNRH antagonists if you haven't had an orchiectomy.
			* Trisequens, while being available in Greece, is odd to take with 12 pills being 2mg EH, 10 norgestrel, and 6 1mg EH, for a much higher price than [[HRT#Cyclacur\|Cyclacur]].
	\|-		\|-
	\|Delestrogen (Vial), Progynon Depot (Ampules)		\|Neofollin (can be ordered from pharmacies near Czechia, not tested in Greece), Delestrogen (Vial, unavailable), Progynon Depot (Ampules, unavailable)
	\|		\|
	====== Estradiol Valerate (EV) ======		====== Estradiol Valerate (EV) ======